|
|
|
GaryNJ
Cumberland
NJ USA
|
Posts: 250
Joined: 2010
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
About a year ago the esteemed former member of MHO NYGiant posted a comment that claimed:
Quote:Brevet Lieutenant James Wellington, nephew of the Duke of Wellington was killed at the Battle of Plattsburgh. The family disinterred his remains and brought them back to England.
I don't believe anyone has pointed out that this is not true so I will.
The false claim was based on a 1963 article in New York History. If you register for free at JSTOR you can read it here.
[Read More]
It was written by Allan S. Everest and he stated on page 320:
Quote:At Culver Hill, Colonel Wellington, nephew of the famous Duke, met his death.
Mr. Everest continued to study of the battle at Plattsburgh and discovered that the story of the death of Wellington's nephew was just a local myth. When he published his book The War of 1812 in the Champlain Valley in 1981 he corrected the error. He stated on page 173:
Quote:As the British marched up the hill, in perfect formation and filling the road, Lieutenant Colonel James Wellington of the Third Buffs, no relative of the Duke of Wellington, contrary to local belief, made a prominent target.
Canadian historian Donald E. Graves in his book And All Their Glory Past: Fort Erie, Plattsburgh and the Final Battles in the North, 1814 points out that both James Wellington and James Willington are spellings used in the record but more sources use James Willington so he uses that. He states on page 160:
Quote:As the British approached in column, preceded by a cloud of skirmishers, the American regulars and militia opened a heavy fire that killed Lieutenant Colonel James Willington,...
At the bottom of the page he notes:
Quote:Willington was later re-buried in Plattsburgh Cemetery. Contrary to popular myth he was no relation to the Duke of Wellington.
In his book Defender of Canada: Sir George Prevost and the War of 1812 Canadian historian John R. Grodzinski wrote in the endnote:
Quote:Among the casualties was Lieutenant Colonel James Wellington (sometimes spelled "Willington") of the 3rd Buffs, whose death became part of the local mythology as he was wrongfully believed to be a relative of the Duke of Wellington.
Gary
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wazza
Sydney
Australia
|
Posts: 786
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
Thankyou for the correction.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
scoucer
Berlin
Germany
|
Posts: 3189
Joined: 2010
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
I pointed it out in a PM. Showing him that neither of the Duke´s nephews ever left England.
He went ballistic.
Trevor
Edit; As a consequence he started messing about with my "Jackson´s Valley Campaign" Thread. Which I then,unfortunately, immediately stopped. Did not want my enjoyment and efforts ruined by his ego problems.
----------------------------------
`Hey don´t the wars come easy and don´t the peace come hard`- Buffy Sainte-Marie
Some swim with the stream. Some swim against the stream. Me - I´m stuck somewhere in the woods and can´t even find the stupid stream.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
vpatrick
MA
MA USA
|
Posts: 2437
Joined: 2020
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
dont say his name three times he may return...
----------------------------------
nuts
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Michigan Dave
Muskegon
MI USA
|
Posts: 7898
Joined: 2006
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
Hi guys,
Sometimes in our today in history topics I post them from a year ago, being in a hurry because of time factors, the one I posted just before leaving up north recently had his name in the reply s!
Your right Vince, we couldn't take the ghost of the past!?
Oops, sorry!
MD
----------------------------------
"The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DT509er
Santa Rosa
CA USA
|
Posts: 1364
Joined: 2005
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
At some point, early on at that, I stopped engaging with him on any level; he is not worth the time and effort.
But now, I know about Wellington's nephews. 
Dan
----------------------------------
"American parachutists-devils in baggy pants..." German officer, Italy 1944.
“If your experiment needs statistics, you ought to have done a better experiment.” Lord Ernest Rutherford
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
mikecmaps
CAMARILLO
CA USA
|
Posts: 206
Joined: 2020
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
09142023
Group,
I think I missed this thread before so hope no one finds this post out of order;
But the whole topic was suspect from the first because the DUKE’s name was
never WELLINGTON – it’s a title not a name and only goes with the male descendent
not nephews.(unless they become heirs)
So, a Willington or Wellington family name is immediately suspect
if applied to the duke.
The Duke’s grandfather (and hence the dukes)
actual family name had been COLLEY.
Dukes grandfather was born RICHARD COLLEY.
He inherited Irish estates and title from his cousin who died with no
direct heirs – condition being that he change his name to Wesley,
which was later spelled and pronounced WELLESLEY.
So, any nephews from the male line
family name would be Wellesley not Wellington.
Apparently, the title WELLINGTON came from a small
English village in Somerset which
was picked by DUKEs brother because of similarity to Wellesley family name.
Yours, MikeC (Collie)
mikecmaps
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
scoucer
Berlin
Germany
|
Posts: 3189
Joined: 2010
|
|
|
|
A Myth Exposed
|
|
Quote: 09142023
Group,
I think I missed this thread before so hope no one finds this post out of order;
But the whole topic was suspect from the first because the DUKE’s name was
never WELLINGTON – it’s a title not a name and only goes with the male descendent
not nephews.(unless they become heirs)
So, a Willington or Wellington family name is immediately suspect
if applied to the duke.
The Duke’s grandfather (and hence the dukes)
actual family name had been COLLEY.
Dukes grandfather was born RICHARD COLLEY.
He inherited Irish estates and title from his cousin who died with no
direct heirs – condition being that he change his name to Wesley,
which was later spelled and pronounced WELLESLEY.
So, any nephews from the male line
family name would be Wellesley not Wellington.
Apparently, the title WELLINGTON came from a small
English village in Somerset which
was picked by DUKEs brother because of similarity to Wellesley family name.
Yours, MikeC (Collie)
mikecmaps
Exactly Mike. He was Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington and his two nephews were Welleseys, sons of of his elder brother Richard.
Trevor
----------------------------------
`Hey don´t the wars come easy and don´t the peace come hard`- Buffy Sainte-Marie
Some swim with the stream. Some swim against the stream. Me - I´m stuck somewhere in the woods and can´t even find the stupid stream.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
