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Hi Larry,
A couple of the officers in this article, are left wanting by history, Gen Seigel was a political appointed german officer, known for his retreats! & Gen Fremont ran for President, & didn't fare well, partly because of his non successful Civil War record!? And General Lyon was certainly a failure in regards to this battle, at least as portrayed!? I bet the CSA forces wished all Union officers were like them!??
But again this is what I have read about these guys, & I can't substantiate it!? for sure??
What say you? Anyone??
Regards,
MD
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Phil Andrade
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Hi Dave,
How delightful to see that you’ve joined the party !
I began to think that Larry and I were the last men standing, conducting a conversation between the two of us.
Lyon strikes me as a frightening man ; a warrior to his toenails and a furious foe.
We’re I a Southerner in 1861, I imagine I’d have heaved a sigh of relief to learn that he’d met his death on the battlefield.
Fremont and Siegel were dream opponents for the South : Lyon a nightmare to go up against.
This is my impression; I must admit to scant knowledge about this episode of the war.
Regards, Phil
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"That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
Earl of Sandwich and John Wilkes
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Michigan Dave
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Thanks Phil,
I do read them all, but time or knowledge keep me from to many posts!
I'll try & post more?
Cheers!
MD
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Phil Andrade
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Dave,
Let’s find out more about this guy Lyon.
He sounds like an Old Testament fanatic.
Every now and then wars throw up these zealots, who have a disproportionate effect on outcomes.
I wonder if Lyon was the sort of warrior who would have carried out a real “ total war” against secession, not just against the property of southerners, in the mode of Sherman, but against the citizens themselves, visiting death in the manner of an avenging angel .
Regards, Phil
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"Egad, sir, I do not know whether you will die on the gallows or of the pox!"
"That will depend, my Lord, on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
Earl of Sandwich and John Wilkes
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