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Brian W
Atlanta GA USA
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The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
8/2/2022 9:49:21 PM
The latest video from my favorite WWII channel if you're interested:

The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0zJ0lPq1UU&ab_channel=WorldWarTwo
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Phil Andrade
London  UK
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The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
8/14/2022 10:20:59 AM
Bryan,

Thanks for this.

An excellent accompaniment to a new book on the battle that I’m currently reading:

THE LIGHTHOUSE OF STALINGRAD, The Hidden Truth at the Centre of WWII’s Greatest Battle, by Iain MacGregor.

Regards, Phil
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Phil Andrade
London  UK
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The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
8/16/2022 3:54:49 PM
According to the book I’ve cited above, two German divisions of the Sixth Army, the 71st and the 295th, undertook a prolonged attack against the Soviet forces deployed in Stalingrad between 14 and 22 September 1942. The combat was intense and portended the horrible character of the battle to come. I was surprised to read that, in that period, those two German divisions reported casualties of just under two thousand, of whom 370 were killed, 1,555 wounded and 29 missing. This seems a rather modest figure, bearing in mind the terrible reputation of the fighting.
More pertinently, the Soviet 13th Guards division that opposed them counted 1,896 in killed and missing alone in that period. A lopsided affair that leaves me wondering how the Soviets were able to win.

Regards, Phil
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Jmayros
Toledo/Spain  Spain
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The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
5/30/2023 8:07:37 AM
Around 30.000 german troops took part directly in the fighting in the city. In my opinion two thousand casualties in such a short period of time and only regarding two divisions means a bloody fight.
I will try to send more data about the casualties from other division extractes from Glantz's books.

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Phil Andrade
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The Battle of Stalingrad Every Week with Maps
5/30/2023 9:13:31 AM
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Around 30.000 german troops took part directly in the fighting in the city. In my opinion two thousand casualties in such a short period of time and only regarding two divisions means a bloody fight.
I will try to send more data about the casualties from other division extractes from Glantz's books.

Regards



Yes please. While Soviet casualties have been meticulously compiled, I’ve never yet seen a comprehensive report for the German total: there’s also the complexity of the satellite armies on the flanks, and , indeed, additional German losses in the relief attempts.

There’s a tendency to interpret the Russian figure for killed and missing as all fatal, while it must be the case that a significant proportion of the missing- in the earlier phases of the battle- were prisoners. That said, being a Soviet PoW in German hands was tantamount to a death sentence in millions of cases, and even if that captivity was survived, the return to Mother Russia was no guarantee of survival, given the vengeful and paranoid nature of Stalin’s rule.

Regards, Phil
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