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(1863) Battle of Gettysburg
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Larry Purtell
Little Meadows
PA USA
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Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/3/2020 8:34:37 AM

From the St Cloud Democrat. St Cloud Minnesota. September 3, 1863


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Michigan Dave
Muskegon, Michigan
MI USA
Posts: 5894
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/5/2020 12:12:01 PM

Hi Larry,

The 2nd article on the heroic 1st Minnesota, It can be argued that they saved the Union Center on day 2 at Gettysburg! It’s a wonder they were still used in combat, they lost over 80% casualties!? What say you?

Citizens helping Union wounded is also admirable!

Thanks,
MD
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morris crumley
Dunwoody
GA USA
Posts: 2811
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/5/2020 4:30:25 PM

It gets a little hyperbolic when Ken Burns states that "Chamberlain and the 20th Maine came up with an unlikely textbook maneuver that saved the Union Army...and perhaps the Union itself!" Or that the 10 minutes that the 1st Minnesota bought Hancock saved the Union center. Saved the Union center from what ? Wilcox`s 1,200 to 1,500 manned brigade that was unsupported, and would continue only into total envelopment of it`s flanks, and then been gobbled up and destroyed?

The 20th Maine saved the Union army...from what, Alabama regiments dehydrated, no canteens, exhausted from the long hot march they made just to get there, then up one side of Big Round top, down the tother and an uphill attack? Who was going to support Oates` success?

Don`t get me wrong, both the 20th Maine and the 1st Minnesota are great stories of heroism and resolve in the face of dire situations. But the 'saving" stuff is a little overdone.

Respects, Morris
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Michigan Dave
Muskegon, Michigan
MI USA
Posts: 5894
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/5/2020 4:58:51 PM

Morris,

In your opinion did anyone save the Union at Gettysburg??

Regards,
MD
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morris crumley
Dunwoody
GA USA
Posts: 2811
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/6/2020 8:43:31 AM

Dave, I think the entire Union Army of the Potomac saved the day at Gettysburg. That army, positioned on Union soil and tasked with defending it, found a resolve it had lacked before in battle.

You can find compelling stories concerning virtually every regiment. The desperate fight in the Wheatfield of the 4th Michigan and Col. Harrison Jeffords, hand to hand fighting over the regimental colors is just as compelling a story as the 1st Minnesota, or the 20th Maine.

In answer to your question, I took to Duck DuckGo and found this article, " Minnesota`s Gettysburg charge long on courage, short on strategic import."

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Respects, Morris
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Michigan Dave
Muskegon, Michigan
MI USA
Posts: 5894
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/6/2020 9:41:50 AM

Morris,

Your right it took a team effort for the Union to prevail. I think the Union subordinate officers did a more focused job than their Confederate counter parts. No major disagreements like Longstreet, & Lee! No not following up “if practical”, or a majority of their Cavalry out of touch with the main force!? Meanwhile the Union Officers just followed orders and lead inspired troops.

Regards,
MD
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morris crumley
Dunwoody
GA USA
Posts: 2811
Letter from Mr's Swisshelm
Posted on: 9/6/2020 10:47:20 AM

Funny, it`s a different war, and 78 years apart from Gettysburg, but if you say that " Patton`s 3rd Army advanced and saved the trapped soldiers of Bastogne....you might get a verbal punch in the nose from one of the men in the 101st Airborne.

" You were surrounded and saved by Patton."

"No, we are airborne...we are always surrounded...and we didn`t get saved by anybody."

Respect, Morris
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